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    Counterpicks

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    Counterpicks

    Hi MODS,

    If there's an existing thread about this please do close this. For now, lets start a thread were we can brainstorm

    1. which hero can counter another hero
    2. how can you counter them with skills?
    3. how can you counter them with items?

    lets brainstorm most likely we can play a lil better.. been watching Zlapped on stream twitch and YOUTUBE channel. hope he can make video guides on counterpicking heroes which they always do pretty good in competitive gaming.


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    Pred can be countered with heroes that has physical damage skills. Eg: panda, dm, mk.

    And we all know that. Haha. I'm not good at this.

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    People who often relies on blink like behemoth, tempest, Witch slayer and etc can be countered using global hero skills like sand wraith and Thunder bringers ss.
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    DR and Moira are really rival I think. DR will suffer alot from Moira's 2nd skill, but Nullfire can counter the mana sunder actually.

    Edit : Too bad, the Mana Sunder can't be nullified
    Last edited by Mr.NewComer; 04-07-15 at 05:51 PM.

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    DoctorRepulsor & MonkeyKing < Vindicator,Moira,Prisoner, Gunblade and Magebane -=[Hellflower]

    Panda < Vindicator, Kane(imo) , Succubus ,Moira and Bubbles -=[Void talisman]

    Predator <Salforis , Panda , Succubus -=[Void talisman]

    Devourer < Bloodhunter , Drunken Master -=[Tablet]

    Slither< Electrician , Monarch -=[Nullfire,ShrunkenHead]

    Dampeer < Emerald warden, Bloodhunter , Chipper! -=[Hex,Hellflower,Barrier]

    Pebbles < Drunken master , Puppet master, Monkey king -=[Barrier, vestments, lex tali]

    Nomad < Pebbles , Scout , Gauntlet -= [ring of teachers, Sols bulwark, Hex]

    Tarot < Dampeer , Legionnaire , Kane -=[Barbed armor]

    Magmus <Vindicator , Bubbles , Thunderbringer -=[Barrier,Shrunkenhead]

    Klanx < Succubus , Panda , Gunblade -=[Shrunken, Barb]

    Parasite < Chtulophant , -=[Alchemist bones]

    Jeraziah < Electrician , Parasite , Succubus =(small vagabond with purge)= -=[Nullfire]

    Rhapsody <Vindicator , Parasite , SandWraith , Pyromancer , Witch slayer -=[Codex,Hellflower,Hex,Tablet]

    o.o"
    Last edited by nica123nica; 17-04-15 at 01:07 AM.


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    Actually para can be easily countered by Blood Hunter nowadays because of its 2nd Skill, acts like elephants skill which kills the entire creep(targeted) then heals him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NewComer View Post
    DR and Moira are really rival I think. DR will suffer alot from Moira's 2nd skill, but Nullfire can counter the mana sunder actually.
    Nullfire will debuff Moira's Mana Sunder?

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    Monarch can counter Slither's 1st skill and passive but not his ulti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oraniancroaxia View Post
    Nullfire will debuff Moira's Mana Sunder?
    you can use the nullfire on yourself to remove debuffs i think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oraniancroaxia View Post
    Nullfire will debuff Moira's Mana Sunder?
    Quote Originally Posted by baneblade_009 View Post
    you can use the nullfire on yourself to remove debuffs i think?
    This, i'm not sure of. Can anyone confirm?

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    More counter picks ideas?

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    Parallax < Magebane
    Hellbringer < Electrician
    Wildsoul < Tarot
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    Not really a counter pick but when there are enemy Valkyrie / Wretched Hag / Magebane / Nighthound / Repulsor, a good hero that will prevent them from Blinking/Leaping out is Prisoner 945, just use his Shackled (W) and it will make their movement abilities disabled for 3.5 / 4.0 / 4.5 / 5.0 seconds.

    Note: I haven't tested Shackled on Magmus' Lava Surge, Bubble's Shell Surf, and Maliken's Sword throw, only those heroes I mentioned above.
    Last edited by spreco; 21-06-15 at 03:31 PM.

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    buff items and bkb were disable form pearls [ aspyxiate ] it says remove all buffs so it means it is a good counter to buff skilled heroes

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    Here's my personal list. WARNING: long post

    Legend:
    + Heroes/items that counter, from most to least effective (slightly subjective)
    - Heroes that are countered

    Low HP mobile heroes
    + Gunblade, Prisoner 945, Forsaken Archer // Hellflower
    - Wretched Hag, Doctor Repulsor, Magebane

    Heroes with gamebreaking skills
    + Vindicator, Moira, Ophelia, Thunderbringer, Devourer, Riftwalker, Kraken // Shrunken Head, Helm of the Dominator
    - Magmus, Tempest, Engineer

    Heroes that rely on buffs
    + Pearl, Electrician, The Dark Lady // Nullfire blade
    - The Dark Lady, Ravenor

    Single Target, Physical Damage Heroes
    + Moraxus, Drunken Master, Monarch // Void Talisman, Daemonic Breastplate, Sol's bulwark, Null Talisman // TEAMWORK!
    - Panda, Nomad, Predator, Madman, Swiftblade, Arachna

    Debuff-inflicting heroes / DPS-based damage
    + Monarch, Pearl
    - Slither, Pollywog Priest

    Caster / Buff-based carries
    + Vindicator, Defiler, Night hound, The Dark Lady
    - Oogie, Ravenor, The Dark Lady, Doctor Repulsor

    Heavy ganking lineup
    + Monarch, Scout, Slither, Engineer, Thunderbringer, Vindicator, Flux, Sand Wraith // Wards, wards, wards!!!
    - MOST ganking heroes

    Heavy farming heroes
    + Torturer, Fayde, Doctor Repulsor, Devourer, Pyromancer, Engineer, Grinex
    - Predator, Tempest, Soulstealer, Solstice

    There's a lot more, but I want to keep them a secret to myself.
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    love to see inputs from alot of people i still love moira though.. by just level 6 he is mostly a complete support gank hero

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    thx guys! Used to have a list like this myself when I was playign def of the anicietns 1 hahaha

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    พระมหากษัตริย์สามารถตอบโต้ Slither's 1st skill และ passive แต่ไม่ได้เป็น ulti ของเขา
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